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TD #2 in the Atlantic, Bertha soon ? Carribean to also watch !
Posted: (July 03, 2008 07:57 am)

I am amazed that the Global models, esp. the GFS saw this area off the Africian coast a week ago for possible tropical development.  A quote from the Nat'l Hurricane Center "A REMARKABLE ACHIEVEMENT". This could be a signal to better forecast in the future for possible hot spots in the tropics, time will tell.


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System Track (2008)   view table
Adv # Advisory Date (UTC) Name (UTC) Position Direction   Speed mph (kts) Pressure mb (in) Winds mph (kts)
Lat Lon
 
1 0900 THU JUL 03 Tropical Depression Two 12.6N 22.7W WNW 9 (8) 1008 (29.77) 35 (30)


 


So does this storm become Bertha ?  Maybe.  The ocean out in front of it does cool a few degrees and the air is a bit more stable but after that it does become a bit warmer on the Sea Surface temps. The SHIPS model (which predicts wind speed potential of tropical systems) shows winds near 75mph near the end of the forecast period, this is very rare on July 3rd to have a system form this far out.  Could this be a signal for a very active end of the month like back in 2004 ?  It could due to overall warmer ocean temps and some lower pressures in certain areas.


COMPUTER MODELS SHOW..............


TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWO ADVISORY NUMBER   1 NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL022008 500 AM EDT THU JUL 03 2008


 


AT 500 AM EDT...0900Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWO WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 12.6 NORTH...LONGITUDE 22.7 WEST OR ABOUT 250
MILES...405 KM...SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS.

THE DEPRESSION IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 9 MPH AND
THIS GENERAL MOTION WITH SOME INCREASE IN FORWARD SPEED IS EXPECTED
FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 35 MPH...55 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS.  SOME STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS AND
THE DEPRESSION COULD BECOME A TROPICAL STORM LATER TODAY.

THE ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1008 MB...29.77 INCHES.

REPEATING THE 500 AM EDT POSITION...12.6 N...22.7 W.  MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 9 MPH.  MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...35
MPH.  MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1008 MB.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT
1100 AM EDT.

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TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWO DISCUSSION NUMBER   1 NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL022008 500 AM EDT THU JUL 03 2008


 


THE STRONG TROPICAL WAVE AND SURFACE LOW OVER THE EASTERN ATLANTIC
OCEAN HAS ACQUIRED ENOUGH ORGANIZED CONVECTION TO NOW BE CONSIDERED
A TROPICAL DEPRESSION.  SATELLITE IMAGES INDICATE THAT A STRONG
BURST OF CONVECTION HAS PERSISTED FOR OVER 12 HOURS NEAR OR JUST
WEST OF THE APPARENT CENTER OF THE SYSTEM.
 
BANDING FEATURES ARE
ALSO BECOMING MORE PRONOUNCED IN THE NORTHWESTERN PART OF THE
CIRCULATION.  THE INITIAL INTENSITY OF 30 KT IS BASED ON A QUIKSCAT
PASS FROM LATE YESTERDAY THAT SHOWED SOME RELIABLE 25-30 KT WINDS. 
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT MOST GLOBAL MODELS...ESPECIALLY THE
GFS...SUGGESTED THE POSSIBILITY OF GENESIS IN THIS AREA OVER A WEEK
AGO...A REMARKABLE ACHIEVEMENT.
 
MIDDLE-LEVEL RIDGING IS STEERING THE STORM TOWARD THE WEST-
NORTHWEST...ABOUT 285/8. THIS RIDGING GETS STRONGER DURING THE NEXT
COUPLE OF DAYS...WHICH SHOULD CAUSE A FASTER FORWARD MOTION BY LATE
TOMORROW. GLOBAL MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE TRACK UNTIL
THE SYSTEM POTENTIALLY REACHES A BREAK IN THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE
ALONG ABOUT 50W-55W AT THE END OF THE FORECAST PERIOD.
THE MODELS
THAT SHOW THE STRONGEST REFLECTION OF THE CYCLONE...SUCH AS THE
GFS/HWRF/GFDL...TURN THE DEPRESSION MORE TOWARD THE NORTHWEST...
WHILE THE UKMET/ECMWF MODELS KEEP A WEAKER TROPICAL CYCLONE ON A
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD TRACK. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS CLOSE TO A BLEND
OF THE FIVE MODELS ABOVE BUT JUST A SHADE TO THE LEFT OF THAT
CONSENSUS.
VERTICAL WIND SHEAR IS FORECAST TO REMAIN LIGHT FOR THE NEXT FEW
DAYS NEAR THIS SYSTEM...SO THE BIGGEST LIMITING FACTOR ON THE
FUTURE STRENGTH OF THE DEPRESSION IS THE COOLER WATERS AND MORE
STABLE AIR IN ITS PATH. AFTER ABOUT 24 HR ON THE NHC TRACK...SSTS
DROP BELOW 26C AND STAY BELOW THAT THRESHOLD FOR A COUPLE DAYS.
THEREAFTER SSTS WARM SLIGHTLY AND MOST GLOBAL MODELS FORECAST AN
ENVIRONMENT THAT WOULD FAVOR SOME INTENSIFICATION. THE OFFICIAL
INTENSITY FORECAST REFLECTS THIS SCENARIO...SHOWING STRENGTHENING
AT THE START AND END OF THE FORECAST PERIOD AND NO SIGNIFICANT
CHANGE IN BETWEEN WHILE THE SYSTEM IS OVER THE COOLEST SSTS.
THE SHIPS/GFDL MODELS ARE A LITTLE MORE BULLISH WITH THIS
SYSTEM...MAKING IT A HURRICANE WITHIN 5 DAYS. 

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL      03/0900Z 12.6N  22.7W    30 KT
 12HR VT     03/1800Z 13.0N  24.5W    35 KT
 24HR VT     04/0600Z 13.8N  27.2W    45 KT
 36HR VT     04/1800Z 14.7N  30.0W    45 KT
 48HR VT     05/0600Z 15.8N  33.3W    45 KT
 72HR VT     06/0600Z 17.5N  40.0W    45 KT
 96HR VT     07/0600Z 20.0N  46.5W    50 KT
120HR VT     08/0600Z 23.0N  51.0W    55 KT
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thedude11
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Kevin, there has.
Posted: (July 03, 2008 11:31 am)

1996. Her name was also Bertha. Weird isn't it? She hit just north of Myrtle Beach, SC and shot straight up the coast.
 

KevinReilly
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That's Really Early
Posted: (July 03, 2008 10:07 am)

I don't remember a tropical system forming this early of the Cape Verde Islands?? Has there been another system that has formed in the past this early in this location? July 3rd wow! Kevin
 
 
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