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FLOODING LIKELY FOR NORTH CAROLINA, VIRGINIA, MARYLAND, DC, DE, PA & NJ, NY
Posted: (September 06, 2008 07:11 am)

IMPACT OF HANNA TODAY/TONIGHT
             
CITY LAST GFS GFS NOW LAST NAM NAM NOW MY CALL CONDITIONS/WIND/IMPACT
RALEIGH NC 1.02" 1.44" 2.92" 3.62" 2.47" 2.50" RECORDED RAIN SO FAR
WILMINGTON NC 1.58" 1.54" .50" 1.74" 1.83" 1.79" RECORDED RAIN SO FAR
CAPE HATTERAS NC 1.00" .58" .63" .54" .56" TROPICAL STRM WINDS, SOME RAIN
RICHMOND VA 1.70" 1.56" 2.95" 2.35" 2.00" WINDS TO 40 MPH, SQUALLS
WASHINGTON DC 3.03" 4.41" 5.88" 3.11" 3.97" FLOODING N&W OF CITY
BALTIMORE MD 2.71" 3.98" 6.37" 3.44" 3.87" FLOODING N&W OF CITY
VIRGINIA BCH VA 1.24" .55" 1.24" .67" .62" TROPICAL STRM WINDS, SOME RAIN
OCEAN CITY MD 1.26" 1.00" 1.05" 1.23" 1.11" TROPICAL STRM WINDS, SOME RAIN
REHOBOTH BCH DE 1.18" 1.23" 1.08" 1.36" 1.30" TROPICAL STRM WINDS, SOME RAIN
DOVER DELAWARE 1.49" 1.77" 1.12" 2.70" 2.16" 40MPH WINDS, SQUALLS
PHILADELPHIA PA 3.73" 3.15" 2.82" 3.18" 3.16" FLOODING N&W OF CITY
MILLVILLE NJ 2.12" 1.70" .99" 2.77" 2.22" WINDY WITH SQUALLS, RAIN
ATLANTIC CITY NJ 2.48" 1.41" .92" 2.62" 1.56" TROPICAL STRM WINDS, SOME RAIN
TRENTON NJ 3.61" 3.30" 2.43" 3.17" 3.21" SQUALLS, HEAVY RAIN
BINGHAMTON NY .25" .25" .42" .70" .43" OCC. SHOWERS
SCRANTON PA 1.51" 2.21" 4.51" 2.86" 2.43" HVY RAIN IN SPOTS, SOME FLOODING
READING PA 2.98" 4.65" 6.53" 3.38" 4.32" FLOODING LIKELY
ALLENTOWN PA 2.57" 4.19" 7.20" 3.85" 4.00" FLOODING LIKELY
LANCASTER PA .67" .20" 1.11" XXXX .34" SQUALLS, SHOWERS
SEASIDE HEIGHTS NJ 1.98" 2.89" 1.29" 2.87" 2.88" TROPICAL STRM WINDS, SOME RAIN
NEW YORK CITY 2.11" 4.81" 2.02" 4.29" 4.56" FLOODING LIKELY N & W OF CITY
WESTERN LONG ISL 2.58" 2.98" 1.88" 4.05" 3.85" FLOODING NASSAU COUNTY
EASTERN LONG ISL 3.19" 2.20" 1.78" 4.06" 3.58" FLOODING POSSIBLE
NEWARK NJ 2.37" 4.51" 2.18" 3.94" 4.31" FLOODING LIKELY
             
OVERALL MINOR IMPACT         MODEL CHANGES BELOW……
OVERALL MODERATE IMPACT         NAM SHOWS DECREASE 
OVERALL HIGH IMPACT         NYC/ALLENTOWN/READING PA FLOODING
FLOODING MINOR           GFS CAUGHT UP TO NAM
FLOODING MODERATE           OVERALL N & W OF MAJOR
FLOODING HIGH           CITIES WILL HAVE FLOOD PROBLEMS

MODEL CHANGES.....

If you have read my blogs on the flooding issues the last few days you know I was leaning toward the NAM on the flood potential, esp. N & W of the big cities.  The NAM dropped off a bit on the big totals in Reading PA and Allentown PA, but the GFS made a comeback from the low numbers on the last few runs. This tends to happen with these two models. The NAM gets out of the gate quickly on rain and snow and the GFS slowly finds it way to the NAM adjusted numbers 24 hours before a storm.


BIG RAIN REAL FAST....

The problem later today in Baltimore, Washington Metro and tonight in Philly metro is the rate the rain comes down.  Take a look at your city above, most of that total comes in a 6 hour period not the entire day.  That is a real FLASH FLOOD problem for many areas, esp. hilly areas north and west of the major cities. Yes this storm will pick up in forward motion but at the same time it will get squeezed out of some pretty good moisture.  

Reading and Allentown will see 3.62" of rain in 6 hours !!!  That is my real concern later today and tonight.  

Baltimore/DC Metro will see 3.00" of rain in 4-6 hours this afternoon, that is a problem.  

NYC Metro will see 3-4" of rain in 6-9 hours later tonight with places over 5".  Spread those amounts over a day and you get some problems, do in 6 hours and you have FLASH FLOODING !

MODELS DO NOT SEE STORMS AND LIFT THAT WELL

Yes I do think the NAM has better grids when it comes to topography, but models often miss micro meteorology and embedded storms with tropical systems.  What this means is look at models as a big 3D box.  The data put into that box is divided by grids or cubes.  The NAM does a better job of this and those grids do keep in mind the topography but only to a certain degree.  Models do not see those storms in the tropical system and that can pop a few places in the 8-10" rainfall range overall with Hanna.  This was the case with Floyd, lolipops of rain over 12".  Now this is different than Floyd but we will get a good dose of rain today and tonight for the I-95 area.

MY THINKING ON THE RAIN TODAY...........IMPORTANT READ...........

IF you are N & W of the Washington DC/Baltimore/NYC/Philly metro areas you need to watch this very carefully today and tonight.  If your basement floods, move the stuff now not later because this will come down quick and hard !  Some may say hey you are overplaying this but I'll tell you I'd rather be safe than sorry.  If your hometown does not flood, and I hope it does now, think of this as a drill for the next tropical systems lined up in the Atlantic and Gulf.  Best of luck to all today and check back.  IF YOU HAVE FLOODING SEND US THE INFO IN THIS BLOG.  IF YOU HAVE WIND/RAIN NUMBERS SEND US THE INFO  Look at the numbers for Wilmington NC and Raleigh NC.  The rainfall today has already passed what both models predicted, that is often a sign of things to come as this storm heads north.
 





 
 
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